got obsessed about wives submitting to husbands…

Ξ July 8th, 2008 | → | ∇ Cultural Architect Stuff, family, general life stuff, podcasts |

Well, for those of you who don’t know I am doing three podcasts now, and loving every single one of them, but one in particular is causing me to do more research and getting to know my bible much better. the podcast is called, “Generally Speaking About The Church” and on the podcast I co-host the show with a new friend Cliff and we speak generally about our faith and Christianity. We join discussions live with people on the chat and the same with emails and voice mails. Well, a lot of the topics we have talked about lately are a few contriversial issues and one that we talked about is this text found in the Bible:

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2 Cor. 5:21-33

21Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
Wives and Husbands
22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing[b] her by the washing with water through the word, 27and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church— 30for we are members of his body. 31″For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[c] 32This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

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And the more and more I got into the discussion the more and more I realized that I had not really crittically done any exgetical work on this passage, so I sat down and started the process… and here are the top ten thoughts I gleened out of the passge through study and prayer:

The way I see it:

1) this is only for husband and wife, not male and female roles.

2) Christ is the example that qualifies “headship”, and “submission”.

3) this must be read with the first century culture in mind.

4) the submission of the wife to the husband is within the wider submission of everyone to each other in 21.

5) the motive for submission of the wife is within the context of the wife’s relation to the Lord.

6) this submission is regulated by the divine pattern of Christ’s relationship to the church.

7) so, the husband’s authority is regulated by Christ’s example and the principle of love.

NO human or fallible husband could ever live up to the quality of love and sacrifice (and love in the past tense in my mind refers back to an event I.e. the cross ) that Christ has for the church, but even at a much lower level this is the quality or concern, love and sacrifice a husband must have for his wife!

9) the Agape love spoken of is one that is completely selfless in its nature and therefore does not give any right of the husband to hold any hint of selfish authority over his wife, it means she (his wife) must be above any of his own interests, pleasures, and personality for the benefit of his wife.

10) I believe there is many more verses found in the bible especially the New Testament that speak of mutual submission to each other than of husbands and wives. (just like in 21, that this is a value and expression for all believers to each other, and that wives to husbands is within that larger context. So, I choose to emphasize verse 21 of mutual submission to one another over that of husband “over” wife.

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So, what do yall think? I have a few more of these that I will put here as well, like “The Christian response to war”, and “the use of the American flag in worship”. those will come if yall want to read them, but chew on this one for a while and let me know what yall think. Thanks! and blessing on ya!